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Topic: Fang Model?

I heard jolly found the fang model in 718, but I haven't seen any pictures of it.

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SonicXtreme209 wrote:

I heard jolly found the fang model in 718, but I haven't seen any pictures of it.

Me neither.

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Yeah he quit work on 718. Hope jolly releases the notes to crack this game open wider than Eggman.

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toonjoey wrote:

Yeah he quit work on 718. Hope jolly releases the notes to crack this game open wider than Eggman.

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"Let's crack this Eggman wide open!"
- Sonic the Hedgehog, 2004

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BakaBlake wrote:
toonjoey wrote:

Yeah he quit work on 718. Hope jolly releases the notes to crack this game open wider than Eggman.

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- Sonic the Hedgehog, 2004

"I'll slam dunk it in there!" - Sonic the Hedgehog, Adventure 2

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toonjoey wrote:
BakaBlake wrote:
toonjoey wrote:

Yeah he quit work on 718. Hope jolly releases the notes to crack this game open wider than Eggman.

(P U N S)

"Let's crack this Eggman wide open!"
- Sonic the Hedgehog, 2004

"I'll slam dunk it in there!" - Sonic the Hedgehog, Adventure 2

"Watch out! You're gonna crash! Aah!"
- Sonic the Hedgehog, 1999

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Legendary 1 liners

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"NOW YOU ARE V E R Y W R O N G"
-Sonex

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toonjoey wrote:

"NOW YOU ARE V E R Y W R O N G"
-Sonex

"..."
- Sunky

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10 (edited by videonerd91 2017-06-02 17:28:42)

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Ha ha ha ha, if it isn't Sonic! Look, it's a giant talking egg. Silence!
Sonic Adventure, 9/9/99

Hey you, you still don't have a Sega CD? Wha? What are you waiting for? Nintendo to make one? Huh. You have seen the games, right? Uhhh. Wrong answer man, show em'. SEGA CD MONTAGEEEEEE!!!!!! WELCOMETOTHENEXTLEVEL Wanna see more? Meow! SEGA!!!!

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Also, I found this video with some bosses and there is a Fang model, though I'm pretty sure it's a placeholder. Also, what's up with Dr. Snowbotnik? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L24_gKhgBDU
P.S. I know itsstillthinking1999 is on the forums.

Hey you, you still don't have a Sega CD? Wha? What are you waiting for? Nintendo to make one? Huh. You have seen the games, right? Uhhh. Wrong answer man, show em'. SEGA CD MONTAGEEEEEE!!!!!! WELCOMETOTHENEXTLEVEL Wanna see more? Meow! SEGA!!!!

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Fan-made.

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You think it'd be possible to just make a lower polygon version of his model from Sonic the Fighters? If we end up not finding the official model.

Also, something tells me he'd have a more prominent role in this game since he'd been slowly becoming a reoccurring character at the time.

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CalebRazzleberry wrote:

You think it'd be possible to just make a lower polygon version of his model from Sonic the Fighters? If we end up not finding the official model.

There's a thread somewhere that states that it looks nothing like the Sonic The Fighters model. It might take a while to find it though but I'll keep digging for it.

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SonicXtreme209 wrote:
CalebRazzleberry wrote:

You think it'd be possible to just make a lower polygon version of his model from Sonic the Fighters? If we end up not finding the official model.

There's a thread somewhere that states that it looks nothing like the Sonic The Fighters model. It might take a while to find it though but I'll keep digging for it.

Yeah I think Andrew stated it was nothing like it for Jolly. Jolly used SANiKs notes (he's the person who originally found the Nack, Metal Sonic ground, and Jade Gully ground without it moving) to find them.

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toonjoey wrote:
SonicXtreme209 wrote:
CalebRazzleberry wrote:

You think it'd be possible to just make a lower polygon version of his model from Sonic the Fighters? If we end up not finding the official model.

There's a thread somewhere that states that it looks nothing like the Sonic The Fighters model. It might take a while to find it though but I'll keep digging for it.

Yeah I think Andrew stated it was nothing like it for Jolly. Jolly used SANiKs notes (he's the person who originally found the Nack, Metal Sonic ground, and Jade Gully ground without it moving) to find them.

That is correct, I started from SANIK's notes but I dug a little deeper to see if textures and other items could be recovered.

I didn't find much yet, and I don't have enough time to discover all the graphics. I recovered a chunk of the terrain too...

To be honest I am not sure about the name of the 3D character I found...

Jolly

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Jollyroger wrote:
toonjoey wrote:
SonicXtreme209 wrote:

There's a thread somewhere that states that it looks nothing like the Sonic The Fighters model. It might take a while to find it though but I'll keep digging for it.

Yeah I think Andrew stated it was nothing like it for Jolly. Jolly used SANiKs notes (he's the person who originally found the Nack, Metal Sonic ground, and Jade Gully ground without it moving) to find them.

That is correct, I started from SANIK's notes but I dug a little deeper to see if textures and other items could be recovered.

I didn't find much yet, and I don't have enough time to discover all the graphics. I recovered a chunk of the terrain too...

To be honest I am not sure about the name of the 3D character I found...

Jolly

Screenshot? I could see what or who it is.

Back to Sonic quotes.

"Smooth move, Knucklehead!"

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https://picload.org/image/riilprpl/capture2.png

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Jollyroger wrote:

https://picload.org/image/riilprpl/capture2.png

Now THAT'S some high quality polygons.

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CalebRazzleberry wrote:
Jollyroger wrote:

https://picload.org/image/riilprpl/capture2.png

Now THAT'S some high quality polygons.

It was definitely a high-quality rip.

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I don't have time to clean it up and arrange the pieces properly, but if anyone wants to have a go I can send them the STL file.

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Jollyroger wrote:

I don't have time to clean it up and arrange the pieces properly, but if anyone wants to have a go I can send them the STL file.

Heya Jolly didn't know you signed up! I have been mostly super offline busy since December. Anyhow, I've got the pieces arranged from when you sent Nack the Weasel's model you extracted awhile back, but I don't know if I have the positons correct, It's all guess work when reconstructing all the part positions. I was waiting for if you had the chance to see if position data was in the build or not.

I think it would be awesome if when you had the time, that if you wanted to try it,,, than maybe you could figure out a way to display nack in the level somehow, perhaps there is some data that is switched off so he is not loaded up when the game boots, and if you found that switch if its there, than maybe all of his AI is there too. and I mean if we are lucky we could see his behavior. But yeah, I think it would be an insane amount of detective work on your part.
Anyways this is just my wishful thinking here.


Anyhow here are some screens of the model with some positions being correct like the shoulders since they share the same pivot point as the torso lol
I wasn't planning to show these since I was waiting for a more advanced extraction including proper positioning.

Front
http://i.imgur.com/q9lMFU7.png
Behind
http://i.imgur.com/llHVCIt.png

I'm not quite sure what these are, but I think they are related to the crystal like objects seen in the screenshots below this screen.
http://i.imgur.com/XNdcDUp.png

Circled is one of the crystal like objects, Could it be a projectile? Or maybe environmental set piece like the green crystal seen hovering over the yellow rock formation texture.
http://i.imgur.com/kzSnO7j.png

I believe the red object is an explosion
http://i.imgur.com/ltHmV8V.jpg

More screens of the stage, I'm sure some of the grass textures used for the Nack / Fang stage is also reused for the 718 demo's terrain.
but some of it is missing from 718's terrain.
http://i.imgur.com/CPQpeDs.png

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Sorry to kinda go off topic here,,,,,
I wasn't planning to show this yet, but me and a friend DaGuAr started recreating the boss stage floor awhile back, we used the images above as a reference for making the yellow sandstone or whatever that is, It's hard to see how the actual texture looked like in Xtreme because the screens are so blurry! This is still a WIP, need to redo the dark version texture since it feels so dark. but yeah if we could grab ahold of the original stuff than we wouldn't need to use the imitation that we created.

http://i.imgur.com/yprLg67.png
http://i.imgur.com/5Ft0XHY.png

I figured out that some screenshots from the other project condor build (related to 718 that they used virtual fighter background images.)
It seems the Terrain is the same as the 718 build, but they have different textures in the following screens, I have no idea where these screens came from, but they look pretty high quality. I'm sure that another build is out there somewhere.
Also note that we have all of the textures from some old Sega SDK that leaked many years back for the terrain in the shots.

If you look carefully you can still see the red lighting from Metal Sonic's boss stage in the screens.
http://i.imgur.com/wdnMnVu.png
http://i.imgur.com/k4u0ZBH.png

Look at virtual fighter now, check out the beach sand and the clouds.
http://i.imgur.com/7la246W.png

Some details about Fangs attacks.
http://i.imgur.com/FfSxZwh.jpg

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Andrew75 wrote:

Some details about Fangs attacks.

ooh nice

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Jollyroger wrote:

I don't have time to clean it up and arrange the pieces properly, but if anyone wants to have a go I can send them the STL file.

Say Jolly, are you allowed to upload SANiKs notes? He's not really using them anymore so he probably wouldn't care.

Also, can you share the Metal Sonic boss ground model? I'm gonna apply a texture to it to see if it actually is the ground. tongue

BTW I could color correct the images to see what the original colors for Fang were.

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